Hey Trainers! Be sure to check out Corsola Beach, our newest section on the forums, in partnership with our friends at Corsola Cove! At the Beach, you can discuss the competitive side of the games, post your favorite Pokemon memes, and connect with other Pokemon creators!
Due to the recent changes with Twitter's API, it is no longer possible for Bulbagarden forum users to login via their Twitter account.If you signed up to Bulbagarden via Twitter and do not have another way to login, please contact us here with your Twitter username so that we can get you sorted.
- Home
- Forums
- Pokémon Video Games
- Pokémon Legends: Arceus
- Thread starterlisianthus
- Start dateJan 19, 2022
More options
Who Replied?
Threadmarks
View all 4 threadmarks
Reader mode
Recent threadmarks
Pokémon namesNew Moves!possibleAlpha height/weights and codes for them
Reader mode
Cute Charm
Game Footage Not Final
Sobble FanFuecoco Fan
- Joined
- May 19, 2003
- Messages
- 2,639
- Reaction score
- 4,258
- Pronouns
- She/Her
- Jan 25, 2022
- #81
Articfoxgamez said:
Based on what i've seen of the games story Yeah it doesn't seem like they are intentionally ugly, it's just them trying to look like Arceus
Someone brought up on tumblr that maybe they're supposed to be ugly and shocking in some kind of biblical angel sort of way?
Either way, I still kind of like Palkia the best but Dialga is growing on me.
Poke Dragon
Looking for a way to be whole again.
- Joined
- Apr 30, 2018
- Messages
- 4,332
- Reaction score
- 7,418
- Jan 25, 2022
- #82
The new forms are Origin forms, so it could be that they originally had a similar appearance to Arceus before they lost the form.
Articfoxgamez
I Exist
Sprigatito Fan
- Joined
- Feb 26, 2021
- Messages
- 2,400
- Reaction score
- 3,087
- Jan 25, 2022
- #83
I believe there is a theory out there based on the library myths that Dialga and Palkia were once part of Arceus instead of being just created from nothing... or rather part of whatever the Original One is that became Arceus. So it would make sense if they originally looked like him too.
Poke Dragon
Looking for a way to be whole again.
- Joined
- Apr 30, 2018
- Messages
- 4,332
- Reaction score
- 7,418
- Jan 25, 2022
- #84
In a sense, Dialga and Palkia can be considered being part of Arceus, recombined with their creator while in their Origin form, not in a physical way, but more of a spiritual way, according to the theory off course.
Last edited:
Daren
HM Champion 2006-2021
Monster Mash Participant 2021
- Joined
- Sep 27, 2007
- Messages
- 3,954
- Reaction score
- 11,225
- Jan 25, 2022
- #86
Yeeze, the move cut was pretty nasty unless a bunch of moves were made much more common. A ton of moves got nerfed, too.
No Earthquake, RIP Torterra's second typing unlike he gets High Horsepower now.
Fighting is looking in a potentially bad state mid-game with Brick Break gone, and Aura Sphere is the only Special one left.
TheElderKing
Fire Pokémon Expert
Scorbunny FanFuecoco Fan
- Joined
- May 21, 2018
- Messages
- 2,155
- Reaction score
- 4,935
- Jan 25, 2022
- #87
The move cut is likely due to the styles introduction and the fact that they improved greatly in the animation department.
Although I don't completely agree in the various moves they decided to cut, as well as certain movesets.
Greninjaman
Ninja Assassin Frog
Sobble FanFuecoco Fan
- Joined
- Feb 16, 2018
- Messages
- 5,075
- Reaction score
- 4,054
- Pronouns
- He/Him
- Jan 25, 2022
- #88
TheElderKing said:
The move cut is likely due to the styles introduction and the fact that they improved greatly in the animation department.
Although I don't completely agree in the various moves they decided to cut, as well as certain movesets.
Fewer moves = Less animation work
TheElderKing
Fire Pokémon Expert
Scorbunny FanFuecoco Fan
- Joined
- May 21, 2018
- Messages
- 2,155
- Reaction score
- 4,935
- Jan 25, 2022
- #89
Greninjaman said:
Fewer moves = Less animation work
Which is way I said the cut was due to the work on the animations.
Greninjaman
Ninja Assassin Frog
Sobble FanFuecoco Fan
- Joined
- Feb 16, 2018
- Messages
- 5,075
- Reaction score
- 4,054
- Pronouns
- He/Him
- Jan 25, 2022
- #90
TheElderKing said:
Which is way I said the cut was due to the work on the animations.
Right. Must have missed that part. My bad.
prog rocker
Well-Known Member
Sobble FanQuaxly Fan
- Joined
- May 27, 2018
- Messages
- 11,215
- Reaction score
- 12,770
- Jan 28, 2022
- #91
takoyaki said:
Day 0 patch for Legends: Arceus was released. I'll be seeing if it makes any changes or not soon~
Day 0 Patch? Now I'm wondering if my problems were caused by not having it...
S
Sheep40
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- May 11, 2019
- Messages
- 733
- Reaction score
- 455
- Jan 30, 2022
- #92
Is there something similar to that Tiki statue in XY that points to the next generation?
LemonAce
New Member
- Joined
- Jan 28, 2022
- Messages
- 6
- Reaction score
- 5
- Jan 31, 2022
- #93
Does anyone know the height and weight formula? From what I can gather, they both use a byte value into a triangular distribution, though at this point I have no idea what the final size output would be. I'm getting alpha sizes that don't really correspond to a set multiplier or addition.
LemonAce
New Member
- Joined
- Jan 28, 2022
- Messages
- 6
- Reaction score
- 5
- Jan 31, 2022
- #94
takoyaki said:
Whoa! How did you even get to that point...? By digging through the code and seeing what the values for those are?
I think alpha sizes may be out of a random 'higher' value?
I wish, I still don't have it yet. I have been seeing other data miners talk about it on discord and twitter.
From what I can gather, both are byte values with a range of 0 to 255. Most of the encounters have a height and weight byte of 127, so I'm guessing that would be the mode of the distribution.
Alphas mostly have the 255 byte for height, not so sure about weight. I guess the distribution for them is different, or the final height for them is calculated differently
LemonAce
New Member
- Joined
- Jan 28, 2022
- Messages
- 6
- Reaction score
- 5
- Feb 1, 2022
- #95
takoyaki said:
Do you own a hacked Switch? I think you can also view some parts of the rom on PC as well.
Nah, I look at the Roms on the PC, Can't afford getting a second switch incase they block it from online xp
In other news, looks like Serebii listed the non-alpha ranges of sizes and weight.
Last edited:
prog rocker
Well-Known Member
Sobble FanQuaxly Fan
- Joined
- May 27, 2018
- Messages
- 11,215
- Reaction score
- 12,770
- Feb 1, 2022
- #96
It could also be a beta element. Like, they considered Mega Evolution, but then axed it.
Poke Dragon
Looking for a way to be whole again.
- Joined
- Apr 30, 2018
- Messages
- 4,332
- Reaction score
- 7,418
- Feb 1, 2022
- #97
Personally, I just think this is a "Just in case" scenario. It doesn't necessarily mean Mega Evolutions will be added.
Oriden
May not return
National Bulbagraphic Participant 2021Fuecoco Fan
- Joined
- Aug 9, 2016
- Messages
- 8,113
- Reaction score
- 24,606
- Feb 1, 2022
- #98
I'm sure it's just a case of that they copy-pasted the data from a main archive and didn't bother to trim anything out this time. It has data for many pokemon and regional variants unavailable in the game as well, including Cap Pikachus. Gonna go out on a limb and say that they definitely weren't planning on adding Cap Pikachus to the game.
Interestingly, it seems like they also have "form" data for the unevolvable Gmax Pikachu and Eevee, as well, but not for Gmax Meowth or any of the other Gmax pokemon. That or it's Partner Pikachu and Eevee but with SwSh learnsets?? Really confused on which iteration of those two those entries are for.
Last edited:
Poke Dragon
Looking for a way to be whole again.
- Joined
- Apr 30, 2018
- Messages
- 4,332
- Reaction score
- 7,418
- Feb 1, 2022
- #99
Oriden said:
I'm sure it's just a case of that they copy-pasted the data from a main archive and didn't bother to trim anything out this time. It has data for many pokemon and regional variants unavailable in the game as well, including Cap Pikachus. Gonna go out on a limb and say that they definitely weren't planning on adding Cap Pikachus to the game.
Interestingly, it seems like they also have "form" data for the unevolvable Gmax Pikachu and Eevee, as well, but not for Gmax Meowth or any of the other Gmax pokemon.
They probably overlooked those, the coding can look messy to the point where things can be overlooked very easily.
Oriden
May not return
National Bulbagraphic Participant 2021Fuecoco Fan
- Joined
- Aug 9, 2016
- Messages
- 8,113
- Reaction score
- 24,606
- Feb 1, 2022
- #100
Poke Dragon said:
They probably overlooked those, the coding can look messy to the point where things can be overlooked very easily.
I wouldn't call it overlooked, more like they didn't bother looking because literally, it has every pokemon from Bulbasaur to Reshiram, nothing trimmed out. They just copy-pasted Gen 1-5 because that was all they needed.
Threadmarks
View all 4 threadmarks
Reader mode
Recent threadmarks
Pokémon namesNew Moves!possibleAlpha height/weights and codes for them
Reader mode
